On this episode, frisbee administration (!), the paradox of "motivational speakers" (we brush them aside until we make the same discoveries for ourselves), not knowing what we don't know, the magic of removing the tension of profit from a business...and big bro coins a new term.

Mentioned:

Rich Roll podcast (Jan 2, 2017) w/ David Goggins;

I Am Bolt (available on Netflix);

This American Life (Nov 5, 2017) "129 Cars".

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