This week, we talk to Debbie Millman (@debbiemillman), a designer, writer, advocate, and creative force from New York City. She’s also a personal hero to both of us, so excuse the fangirling. We discuss how designers can use their superpower to engage local and national communities, why evolving is the most important thing a person can do, and why we should always shoot our shot.

025: We have the opportunity to change culture

Leaders x design is a podcast that highlights and empowers women, non-binary, trans, and all those who are gender non-conforming within the broader design, community relations, engineering, and marketing communities who are doing incredible things. We want to share the stories of these badasses, and how their passion for their pursuits motivates them to push themselves to the limit. Join Allie Umansky and Krista Serianni every week as they interview amazing people who are not afraid to go above their own expectations.

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025: We have the opportunity to change culture

025: We have the opportunity to change culture