A year ago, [Tina] talked to Michele. At that time, he was a PhD student looking for a job in industry. […] "I have a feeling that you have a lot of energy; would you like to share what you have learned with other people so that you will make life easier for them? Because, you see, I have a dream and a vision to start a podcast." And Michele said, "Why not? I would love to! I don't know how to do it, but I can probably learn."

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