If you've listened to the last two episodes with Andre, you know I've been wrestling with what it looks like to respect all people while also acknowledging that power disparities have an impact on how we engage with harm. I say it all the time, but I want safety and security for all people, even if they disagree with my politics.

Like most of you, I've had Palestine and Israel on my mind for the last few weeks. Like a lots of you, I grew up with a theology around the state of Israel that made it - not unlike the US - incapable of wrongdoing.

While I was processing this, I put up a few threads on twitter but I wanted to have a conversation with someone who actually knows what they're talking about. So I reached out to Khaled Beydoun to chat about history, justice, and colonization. Thankfully he will gracious enough to discuss this with me! I'm grateful to be able to connect with people who see respect for all people as a non-negotiable even as we reckon with the legacy of colonization.

Here are a few places you can find Professor Beydoun online

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