This is The Decision: The podcast where people try to convince me to finally abandon The Knicks, and become a fan of their favorite team.

This is Episode 3: The Boston Celtics. One of my most despised teams. Boston fandom just does not do it for me, and I’ve always hated the Celtics. But I brought on someone who actually made a pretty good case. His name is Jake Tuber. He’s one of my best buddies and a lifelong Celtics fan. Alright, here’s our conversation. You can follow his dog at twitter.com/RussellCeltsPup.

The Decision is produced by Alex Kapelman. Original music from Louis Stein, Alessio Romano, and Scott Kapelman. There will be five new episodes of the show every weekday until Tuesday, October 17, when the final episode will be released. Until then, follow Alex on Twitter at twitter.com/alexkapelman.