Join us as we unwrap why wealthtech should be simple, intuitive, and most importantly secure, basically, how to make it not suck. This week's guest is cybersecurity expert Geoff Leeming, founder of Pragma Strategy. He shares how security has evolved and why it's so important to consider security from the very beginning. Lastly, Dani and Ned give an update about their weeks and how they're coping with work from home life.