In this special podcast episode, our CEO-Wayfinder Lisa Garrett Keiser dives deep into conversation with two movement leaders about harnessing the power of design for change. Alongside Sloan Leo Cowan, Founder & CEO of Flox Studio, and Raphael Randall, Deputy Directory of Program and Strategy for the Funders Collaborative on Youth Organizing, we explore how design thinking is at the core of the work of organizers and movement leaders.