The holidays can be "the most wonderful time of the year", but they can also be filled with heartache and challenge for many of us. If anything, maybe your Christmas this year doesn't look like the picture-perfect Christmas card you had in mind (ours doesn't). This episode is a conversation on how to navigate both joy and pain during the holiday season.

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