Poor yourself a glass of milk and tune in as Cam (@chustoo) is joined by special guest Sam Herbst (@mrsamherbst) to discuss Todd Haynes’ Safe. Sam takes a break from the Kidmanifesto Podcast to discuss the cardinal rules of perm maintenance, environmental illness, and the many women named Carol in the Todd Haynes cinematic universe!

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