The in-between trust podcast

#03: Translating Ethics: Trust, Compliance & the Culture of Responsibility


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with Paula Cipierre, Responsible AI Expert & Strategist

In this episode of the in-between trust podcast, Eva Simone Lihotzky speaks with Paula Cipierre, one of the leading responsible AI strategists with a profound background in law, policy, and tech, about what it means to translate legal and ethical principles into organizational practice - and how trust must be built not just through systems, but through culture, clarity, and human connection.


Together, they explore:

  • Why trust needs control, not just promises

  • How to create a culture of compliance that doesn’t collapse into checkboxes

  • The tension between data governance and intelligent systems

  • What it takes to operationalize values across teams, languages, and sectors

  • Why interdisciplinary thinking and empathy are foundational leadership skills in the age of AI

With insight from law, humanities, and hands-on tech policy work, Paula brings a rare perspective to ethical AI - one rooted in systems and storytelling.


🔑 Takeaways

  • Trust in AI depends on both transparency and institutional reliability

  • Compliance isn’t the goal - culture is

  • Regulation can enable innovation if done with clarity

  • Data governance and bias mitigation start long before AI

  • AI literacy is critical to confident, responsible use

  • Responsibility requires interdisciplinary skill and local ownership

  • Leadership means acting with explainability, not just authority

  • People follow people - trust starts with example


🎙️ Quote Highlights

“Trust is good, but control is better.”
“We need a much more integrated approach.”
“Lead by example; people follow people.”


⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – From Humanities to Ethical AI
03:06 – Trust in Technology: The Role of Control
06:03 – Translating Ethics into Practice
09:01 – Compliance vs. Responsibility
11:45 – Cross-Sector Collaboration
14:39 – Regulation as a Tool for Innovation
17:43 – Data Governance in AI
20:42 – AI Literacy and Employee Empowerment
23:29 – Future Skills in AI Governance
26:48 – Sustainability and System Awareness
29:30 – Leading by Example


Links

https://www.linkedin.com/in/paula-kift/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/in-between-trust-podcast/

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The in-between trust podcastBy Eva Simone Lihotzky