This 30th episode marks our first time recording together in the same room! After getting over the initial weirdness of each other's physical presence, we dive into an assortment of topics including the 'hedonic treadmill', today's moment in cultural history, the role of chance in extreme success stories, the forces that drive corporations, the fear of visibility and some updates on our respective ventures.

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