John and Owen meet up IRL in New York to bring you this week's podcast full of talk about how badass Elon Musk is, Apple's $300 book and how interested Peter Thiel is in young people's blood.

030: We hang out, IRL

Cut through the technology news noise and hear about only the stuff that matters, and what it means. Join your hosts Owen, Frederique and Zach every week to get the lowdown on the biggest stories – including some you might not have heard anything about. We're based in Amsterdam, The Netherlands and Toronto, Canada, with a different perspective on what's happening in the technology industry.

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030: We hang out, IRL

030: We hang out, IRL