Strategy Chain

034 - Ivan Pastine - Game Theory, Incentives, and Showing Up


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In this episode I had the good fortune to talk to Dr. Ivan Pastine. I really enjoyed his refreshingly positive outlook. In our conversation, we talk about common real-life game theory scenarios, avoiding man with a hammer syndrome, the concept of "imperfect but useful," incentives, trust, marketing, networking, and the importance of showing up. I think his book, Game Theory: A Graphic Guide, is the best introduction to game theory out there. I really enjoyed this conversation, and I think you will too.

0:01:52 – The time Ivan punched a Thai officer while in the Navy

0:04:55 – How he moved from the Navy into economics

0:07:21 – Game theory "games" that happen all the time

0:07:47 – Competition Demystified by Bruce Greenwald

0:08:47 – One of Ivan's books—Introducing Game Theory: A Graphic Guide

0:12:50 – The economic starting point: how the individual acts in service of his goals

0:16:06 – Avoiding man with a hammer syndrome: what's the important bit / imperfect, but useful.

0:27:45 – Behavioral economics & the ultimatum game (spite)

0:43:50 – Trust, the marshmallow game, and how games change when players expect to play each other again

0:49:35 –James Heckman, Kindergarten lessons about conflict, and a connection to "Touchy Feely" with Nicky Hinrichsen and Chris Coleman (Episode 029)

0:54:39 – Hawk and Dove Game—attitudes toward conflict

1:04:02 – The pinnacle of game theory: understanding the incentives (a la Charlie Munger)

1:11:55 – Shaping incentives for better outcomes (social norms)

1:21:32 – Trust as it relates to dealing with a person vs an institution

1:26:38 – Communication—lessons from teaching and writing

1:32:18 – The importance of having a good editor & the qualities of a good editor

1:35:07 – Thoughts on marketing, celebrity, and the media

1:47:40 – Connection to Mike Malinconico (Episode 021)

1:49:20 – Networking strategies and tactics

1:54:45 – People are surprisingly generous

1:57:30 – Important beliefs: showing up is really important

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