In the second of 4 segments of my initial conversation with Markiss Stone about race, social injustice, and the current state of our country.

In this episode, we touched upon:

- Why we NEED to see race

- The difference between overt and covert racism (plus, which is more hurtful short- and long-term)

- Why "I understand what you're saying BUT..." is one of the most ineffective ways to respond to someone when it comes to truly moving our individual and collective understanding forward.

- Why "All Lives Matter" and "Black Lives Matter" are two entirely different statements.

- Why "Talking to the right people at the right time" has such profound impact when it comes to having the tough conversations. 

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