The Rest is Commentary with Shep Rosenman

035: From Awe to Action: A Conversation with Clive Lawton


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In this episode of The Rest is Commentary, host Shep Rosenman welcomes renowned and award winning Jewish educator and storyteller Clive Lawton for a wide-ranging, down-to-earth conversation sparked by the song “Weaving a Garment of Light” (also known as “Work of Our Hands”), inspired by Psalm 19 and written by Shep and Ruby Corbyn-Ross. Together they explore how Jewish tradition holds both cosmic awe and everyday responsibility at the same time, asking what it means to live with wonder while still showing up for real people and real problems. 

They talk about embracing contrasting ideas in Jewish thought, the call to social and moral action, and why rigid either/or thinking can be so dangerous in an age shaped by technology and AI.  The conversation also turns to Holocaust education, communal duty, and practical ways Jews and anyone else can engage locally and globally, including how creative work and Jewish learning can deepen that sense of responsibility and hope for the future, including hope for the Mashiach (Messiah).

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