Defying all odds, someone listened to the show. But then it turned out Terry trusts the “experts” that the Earth is “flat” instead of doing his own research. Maybe that spells the end of letting readers boss us around and divide us against each other. Then Russ lightly grills Terry on why bother anyone should bother writing music, making records, playing shows, and the rest. The answer is simpler than it first appears.

9m 50s Why make music? Putting the “creat” in “creativity”

12m 4s There is a path to follow that might lead to rock and roll fame, or at least there was for awhile.

30m 23s Why festival gigs are great for performers and the true faithful, and not as great for weekend warrior dentists and accountants. See also the opposite of festival gigs: Renowned old acts playing small intimate shows.

34m 59s The big reveal on why Terry bothers with music at all.

38m 9s Loving it when a (song) plan comes together.

44m 17s Cancelling Elvis Costello

50m 39s: Sunvolt crying songs, LCD Soundsystem crying songs, and “Real Death”