We begin the show talking about what Marvin was breaking: sober April, and the values of taking a sobriety break for your mental health. We discuss ho beneficial it can be in terms of dealing with the pandemic lock downs as opposed to resorting to drinking more.

We shift to talk about a hot topic - Social media. After the European/world of football embarked on a social media blackout, we discuss the methods of keyboard warriors, and break down the difference between promoting a social cause and outright marketing. We talk about how communication remains his key motive since we last spoke, but how the direction has changed with the Together For Change podcast series.

We discuss the process and value of the show and some of the highlights of the production so far. We talk about how having the conversation is healthy and beneficial for society, and how making time in the first place, is as important as maximizing it. We finish talking about ambition in change and the value of family and friends in this divisive time.

PLEASE go check out the Together For Change podcast series available everywhere you can get your podcasts (Except for apple, for some reason) and help us continue the conversation. Thanks as always Marvin!