What does it mean to stay open — as an artist, a parent, and a person — when life asks you to both take control and let go?

In this episode of The Rest is Commentary, director Vicente Amorim sits down with host Shep Rosenman to talk about “Infinite Light,” a song Shep co-wrote with Liz Hanellin, inspired by Psalm 36. Their conversation drifts from creative inspiration to the messy beauty of real life — the push and pull between control and surrender, listening to your inner teenager, and how romance and storytelling shape the way we create and connect.

Together, they reflect on what it means to show up vulnerably — in art, in love, and in family life. Vicente shares what it’s like to make career choices that honor his inner child and how playfulness and responsibility can actually go hand in hand. It’s a warm, thoughtful exchange about finding joy, depth, and meaning in the creative process — and in the everyday stories we tell those we love.