In the first episode of Season 5 and 2025, Helen and Andy speak with Luke Dash and Sam Peters from ISMS.online about whether regulation can protect us — or if it risks backfiring, leaving us more exposed in the battle for digital security.

#037 | S5 | In The Chair | Digital Compliance

Diverse in their world views and politics, Helen and Andy unite in a passionate, deeply critical quest to understand our technological society. The show is sassy, creative, humane and irreverent, but sometimes deadly serious and spot on the money with insights and observations. The banter is enchanting, the chemistry endearing, the topics are exciting, and the episodes appeal to audiences from developers and cyber-security experts to parents and children.

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#037 | S5 | In The Chair | Digital Compliance

#037 | S5 | In The Chair | Digital Compliance