This week's guest on The Rest is Commentary is Rabbi Steve Greenberg, founding director of Eshel, an organization that supports LGBTQ+ and their families in the Orthodox community.  Steve and host Shep Rosenman to dive into the song “Like Sailors”—a piece inspired by Psalm 148 and co-written by Shep and Liz Hanellin. Their conversation blends music, theology, and wonder, exploring what it means to stand in awe of creation and to see prayer as joining a vast cosmic chorus of praise.  

The discussion widens into a moving exploration of moral responsibility: how we shape a world worthy of future generations, what inclusion looks like within Orthodox communities, and how different modes of prayer can transform us. Along the way, Rabbi Greenberg weaves in rich metaphors of ocean, river, and even “slinky time,” inviting us to hold past, present, and future together—with hope, curiosity, and heart.