With Jamal on hiatus in Cuba, friend of the show Mike Arnold joins Yacine as co-host for this week's installment. Mercifully, we only spent a few minutes talking about the utility of math before moving on to other things including shared experiences from the mental battlefield of entrepreneurship, the Buddhist mantra of detachment, the nature of ambition and just what to do about ego... Enjoy!

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