While Eugene was traveling, Charis invited Scot Cheung to co-host an episode of MAEKAN It Up. In this episode, Charis talks with Scot about the ideas that author and culinary historian Michael Twitty puts forward in a video interview he did with Eater. Also, Scot wants to talk about how success on YouTube is hard to achieve and how even relative success doesn't bring in lots of money.

• Why Are People of Color Left Out of the American Food Story? by Jessica Valenti
• ‘Success’ on YouTube Still Means a Life of Poverty by Chris Stokel-Walker

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