Grateful to find this old recording Matt and I did back in Feb 2017 when I was trying to start a podcast then of conversations with people I drove in a car. However fast forward to Sept 2020 and it's the first time we both heard the recording together. Comparing how his life has changed and just catching up, just another shoot the shits episode of thangs. 

Appreciating Matt letting me test out this new Zoom set up with him!