Jessica is joined by her friend Jeff, who talks about what it's like to enjoy a clean and sober life after years of heavy drug and alcohol use, and how to handle staying sober when tragedy strikes.
 
Show Notes:
ASMR - I originally discovered it on Holly Whitaker's blog, Hip Sobriety, and her <a target="_blank" href="http://www.hipsobriety.com/home/2015/10/20/how-to-build-a-sobriety-toolbox">toolbox post</a>
my personal fave: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuRMjkH-NuQ&t=93s">crunchy leaves ASMR</a> (BTW, how annoying are YouTube ads?)

Jessica is joined by her friend Jeff, who talks about what it's like to enjoy a clean and sober life after years of heavy drug and alcohol use, and how to handle staying sober when tragedy strikes. Show Notes: ASMR - I originally discovered it on Holly Whitaker's blog, Hip Sobriety, and her toolbox post my personal fave: crunchy leaves ASMR (BTW, how annoying are YouTube ads?)

Jessica is joined by her friend Jeff, who talks about what it's like to enjoy a clean and sober life after years of heavy drug and alcohol use, and how to handle staying sober when tragedy strikes.
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Show Notes:
ASMR - I originally discovered it on Holly Whitaker's blog, Hip Sobriety, and her <a href="http://www.hipsobriety.com/home/2015/10/20/how-to-build-a-sobriety-toolbox" rel="noopener noreferrer">toolbox post</a>
my personal fave: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuRMjkH-NuQ&amp;t=93s" rel="noopener noreferrer">crunchy leaves ASMR</a> (BTW, how annoying are YouTube ads?)
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04: Jeff's story

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