on this week's episode, meg sits down with Kebar Gelata, a recent graduate of the Georgia Tech MSc in Urban Design and future leader in transit related carbon reduction?? one of meg and zidane's best friends and a true appreciator of models.

while kebar and meg were recording this episode, zidane was making soup in Gladdis (the instant pot) and she's a little loud throughout the episode. sorry about that. soup is serious stuff

this episode focuses on climate change, the built environment & urban planning/design! further, we learn about Kebar's history and talk about the pyramid!!

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