Who said management isn't for programmers? This episode of Software Without Borders kicks off with Ron Lichty, co-author of "Managing the Unmanageable," sharing his extraordinary journey from a coder at a minuscule consulting firm to managing behemoth projects at Apple and Charles Schwab. Ron unpacks the challenges of transitioning from programming to management, the glaring lack of resources for managing software teams, and the enlightening experience that led him and his co-author Mickey Mantle to pen their seminal book. Prepare yourself for some invaluable insights on the importance of experience and effective management in leading software teams to success.