What if AI agents aren’t just tools... but coworkers?

In this episode of Pitch, Build, Scale, we sit down with Tatyana Mamut, CEO of Wayfound.ai, to explore why the future of work isn’t about clamping down on AI, but learning to manage it with the same dignity, respect, and feedback we give humans.

Tatyana shares her journey from anthropology to Amazon, Salesforce, IDEO, and now Wayfound, where she’s building the world’s first AI supervisor platform: a manager for AI agents that ensures compliance, trust, and performance across the enterprise.

We dig into:

- Why cultural change - not technology - is the biggest barrier to AI adoption

- How ethnography helps predict what’s next in tech

- Why managing AI agents like employees could define the next era of business

- What a “multi-sapiens” future looks like when humans and AIs collaborate

- Where she sees AGI vs. ASI heading, and why supervision matters more than guardrails

👉 If you’re a SaaS founder, dev shop leader, or tech executive, this episode will shift how you think about AI, jobs, and organizational design.

Chapters

00:00 Intro: Why We Need to Rethink AI Agents

02:11 Tatyana’s Unconventional Path into Tech

06:57 Anthropology Meets Product Management

09:08 Founding Wayfound.ai: Supervising AI Agents

13:57 Guardrails vs. Guidelines: Building Trust in AI

17:23 Early Adoption in Finance, SaaS, and Services

24:30 Reorganizing Companies Around Human Skills

30:49 The AGI vs. ASI Debate

37:16 Building Institutions for a Multi-Sapiens Future

40:19 Why Culture Change is the Real Challenge

43:16 First Steps for Leaders Exploring AI Agents

Resources

🌐 Wayfound.ai: https://www.wayfound.ai

🔗 Connect with Tatyana: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tmamut

🚀 Big North Marketing: https://www.bignorthmarketing.com