This week: Holly explains last week's summary; how to create space for conversation; Donna wants to talk about Lady Gaga and the white expectation to be socially educated by Black Americans; Holly recounts pre-woke life and fails at saying "participation"… a lot; Donna teaches Holly a lesson on educating other white people; racism as a hierarchical system of oppression vs the sociological definition (Black vs White/Personal vs Clinical Racism); Holly on the life-long journey of unlearning privilege and on why some white people are never exposed to the understanding firsthand.

 

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

-Martin Niemöller