n this episode, we’re joined by Elizabeth Woods for a conversation that moves between symbolism, intuition, and big-picture questions about reality itself. Both of us receive tarot card readings, using the cards not as fortune-telling devices, but as mirrors—tools for reflection, pattern-recognition, and meaning-making.

From there, the conversation opens up into deeper territory. We explore the nature of reality and the universe, touching on ideas found in pantheism, where the divine is woven into everything, and Gnosticism, with its emphasis on inner knowledge, awakening, and seeing beyond surface appearances.

This episode isn’t about giving definitive answers—it’s about sitting with symbols, asking better questions, and noticing what resonates. Whether you’re skeptical, spiritually curious, or somewhere in between, this is a conversation about how humans have always tried to understand themselves and the strange, beautiful world they find themselves in.