This week we talk to Jen Kober, a comedian, writer, and actor, and a mean maker of Fried Chicken hailing from Los Angeles. We talk about suffering for our art, why prioritizing your sanity is key, and the importance of the buddy system. Take a listen to the episode, and find Jen online at JenKober.com.

042: You’re Always Gonna Hear Me

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042: You’re Always Gonna Hear Me

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