Relationships are hard and they come with different complexities and situations that we must navigate. Some are good, and some, well, not so much. What do you do when you're faced with loving someone but you disagree with something they said or did? How do you remain connected when it feels easier to disconnect?

On today's episode, Austin sits down with his friend Jonathan Collier for a hurt-so-good conversation about loving people without signing off on their junk. This one is prickly and will make you think, which is good!

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