Taking a breather from guests, Mitch and Nathan discuss the great evils of John Harvey Kellog and the incalculable damage he has done to American health, and other reasons people are becoming ever more fat and useless. The lads get into high fructose corn syrup, why modern Cereal is a shitty breakfast food, America’s car dependent infrastructure and the culture of convenience, Nathan gets into his experiences living abroad in Abu Dhabi in the UAE, the guys share stories of almost getting abducted as kids, Mitch talks about his gym teacher’s old school attitude to coaching young men, the lads discuss their mixed success at confrontation as young overconfident military men with Nathan angrily approaching a man armed with a handgun and Mitch confident he could disarm a guy with a knife in Italy (and who came away with scars), why the lads hate Lizzo and where Nathan draws the line on what makes a person ‘fat’ beyond what the scale says, getting yourself on track with health via good choices and much more!

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