Worried about the multiple crises we are living through? Housing, cost of living, inequality, poverty, food waste, species extinction, floods, bushfires... People smarter than us know how we can de-grow towards a sustainable, circular economy. And we will be much happier and healthier as a result!We hear from some of those smart people -- Dr Mark Diesendorf, Dr Marilyn Waring, and Dr Steven Hail -- in an excerpt from a podcast called The Sustainable Hour, hosted by Mik Aidt. Anne agrees it is all soooo doable, and Kev gives us a dose of reality. Show Notes Sustainability scientists’ critique of neoclassical economics (mentioned article)Mark Diesendorf, Geoff Davies, Thomas Wiedmann, Joachim H. Spangenberg, and Steven HailGlobal Sustainability journal, Volume 7, 23 September 2024 Theme MusicPleading Ignorance, by Ed Kuepper, from the album Starstruck. Additional Audio The path to a green economy (podcast episode from The Sustainable Hour, 15th of December 2024) Too Many Things, by Ed Kuepper, from the album Starstruck.