On the 46th episode of 20 or 20, Toronto-based band Kiwi Jr. talks about their latest record, Chopper, whose themes are not what you'd expect based on their previous jangle-pop sound. Kiwi Jr.'s  Jeremy Gaudet goes 20 or 20 with Weadee and Weajue Mombo to talk about the scary things in life, riding streetcars at night, conspiracy theories, and gentrification in the city they call home.

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