Shawn gets a little salty about Trump’s SOTU address (which he avoided), while MiLo compares Trump to Liberace. After indulging that digression for a bit, we talk about the closeted 1980s. We come back to the state of US politics, then we talk about cults, theocracy, the ability to recognize truth, tolerating uncertainty, the Tucson rodeo, deconstruction (from the church), embracing mystery, the Golden Rule, the nature of faith and belief, Pascal’s wager, the impotence of prayers, charity and its motivations, indigenous justice systems.

Mentioned in this episode

Covered with Night, A Story of Murder and Indigenous Justice in Early America, by Nicole Eustace (awarded the Pulitzer Prize for history in 2022)

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