In this episode Willie has a conversation with Dr. John Ed Mathison. Dr.  Mathison retired in June 2008 after serving 36 years as senior pastor of Frazer Memorial United Methodist Church in Montgomery, Alabama.  At his retirement, Frazer had eight Sunday morning worship services at the Atlanta Highway campus — 3 traditional, 3 contemporary, 1 Hispanic and 1 Chinese.  Frazer televised its worship services nationwide each week with the INSP network, reaching about 40 million homes.  They were also cybercast live and carried on local radio and television.  Under his leadership, Frazer grew from 400 members to 9,000 and had the largest Sunday School attendance for United Methodist churches in America.  In 2006, The Church Reporter magazine recognized Frazer as the 25th most influential church in America.

Willie and Dr. Mathison have a unique relationship and a heart for Jesus. They wrote a book together about serving titled, "Bib or Apron". In this episode they talk about the challenge of balancing life as a minister while winning at home as a husband and father. 

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