In this episode, the discussion shifts from ethics to political philosophy, focusing on Machiavelli's pragmatic approach to leadership and Rousseau's concept of the social contract. Our conversation evaluates Machiavelli's view that the ends justify the means, and Rousseau's idea of the general will, exploring their relevance in modern politics and culture. We also speculate on the impact of AI on governance while drawing analogies to characters in Game of Thrones.