Karmimadeebora McMillan is an artist living in Brooklyn: “Those stories came from something. They came from something that actually happened, and that’s truly amazing to me, how someone can take that seed and turn it into this other thing just from knowledge and history and research.” In this episode, we talk about the white stag, and animals in fantasy.

Sounds in this episode include recordings by Freesound users pogotron (CC Sampling Plus 1.0); InspectorJ and nicStage (CC BY 3.0); kvgarlic (CC0 1.0); as well as the Hanna-Barbera Lost Treasures Sound Effects Library (Public Domain Mark 1.0) on Internet Archive, and Tierstimmenarchiv/Günter Tembrock (CC BY-SA 3.0 DE). Image © 2006 Wikimedia Commons user Túrelio (CC BY-SA 2.5).