Recently I was able to sit down for lunch with Gary Dean, a man who grew up in the River Conference in Washington and was visiting Ohio where the podcast is recorded! Join us for lunch as we talk about yesterday and today; changes and things that remain the same.

Visit the following link to watch the new film about FMC woman pastors called Lived Experience, and then comment on the page! http://fmcusa.org/conversations/lived-experience-of-female-free-methodist-pastors/

Music today is the new song “Not Dead Yet” from LEDGER

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