Guests Steve Crossland, Chairman of Washington's LLLT Board; Bob Zierman, a boundary dispute attorney in Washington state; and Gary Kent (well known to surveyors nationwide) will join Curt Sumner in a conversation which began during a January 2015 radio show to explore how an LLLT program might be developed to improve neighbor and surveyor-attorney relationships to advance the surveyors' mission of protecting property rights, and advancing the surveying profession.