A behind-the-scenes conversation about lead generation, visibility, and why so many practitioners feel stuck trying to grow through content that isn’t actually moving their business forward.

In this episode, I’m joined by Thy Da Meas, founder of the On Fire Not Inflamed Movement, where she helps high-achieving women regulate their nervous systems so they can grow their work without burning out their bodies.

What we explored:
• Why content creation often feels hard (and ineffective) in the early stages
• The difference between meaningful action and “busy work” in business building
• How Facebook groups create faster access to warm, engaged leads
• Why most practitioners are trying to convert people who aren’t ready yet
• The role of real conversations in building clarity, confidence, and traction

When you shift from trying to reach everyone to connecting with people who are already engaged with their problem, lead generation becomes less about effort — and more about proximity.

Thy Da's links:
→ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teedz.m
→ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1B9byBZD5J/

Sophie’s links:
👁️ Work with me: bio.site/ren.wellbeing
👁️ Follow along on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ren.wellbeing/
👁️ Everything else: https://www.ren-wellbeing.com/
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