This week James grabs an episode while in the Pacific Northwest with Elias Hansen. Eli has traveled and shown in cities such as Toronto, London as well as has had his work acquired by the Seattle Art Museum. His primary artistic discipline revolves around glass blowing as well as installations. Eli also shares stories of beating cancer, his time spent in Tacoma with rowdy artists, racial issues, as well as the usual Art and BS. Follow him on IG @uncleeli also follow us @artandbspodcast