The Influence Gap with Bernadette McClelland

06: Valorie Kondos Field: People Over Performance


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What if one of the greatest NCAA gymnastics coaches of all time never actually did a cartwheel?


In this compelling episode, Bernadette McClelland sits down with Valorie Kondos Field, legendary UCLA gymnastics coach, to explore how she achieved extraordinary success—without ever being a gymnast herself.


You’ll discover how Valorie Kondos Field built a championship program on relationships, vulnerability, and the simple power of asking. She unpacks what it means to lead people (not just performances), why imposter syndrome can be a secret weapon, and how moments of failure can actually unlock lasting influence.


With powerful stories about the "art of the ask," learning from Coach Wooden, and coaching the human being—not just the KPI—this episode will change the way you think about leadership and what’s truly possible when you dare to step out of your comfort zone.


Timestamped Overview:

00:00 Welcome and Valorie Kondos Field’s accolades

04:45 How she became head UCLA coach without gymnastics experience

07:58 Lessons in saying yes without all the answers

11:44 Discovering her authentic leadership style

15:06 Coaching the human, not just the performance

20:30 The power of vulnerability and the need to "be enough"

22:38 The art of the ask: Dinners, mentors, and advocacy

28:01 Why you shouldn't "wait to dance"

29:34 Kids Alive International and championing healing through validation

30:00 Rapid fire leadership reflections

31:12 Closing remarks and takeaways

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