Occasionally, people find their dream job. Sometimes, they also happen to be great at it. That’s what happened to Bethany Stivers when she found the job of Trip Leader, someone who gets paid to take people on amazing trips into the outdoors. In this episode, we talk about the evolution of a backpack with legs into a fearless hype man, a great reason for shaving a beard, and the enviable commute logistics of living and working beside a town ski lift.