On April 11, 2018, host Gene Wilhelm chated with John Egan, director of The Pines Catholic Camp. John says proudly that, "No kid comes into my office after three or four days in the forest and says, 'I miss my X-Box. John discussed a typical day for campers and also gave insight on the types of people that become youth ministers and the kinds of training they have to go through. For more information, email [email protected] or visit their website, thepines.org. Enjoy the show, like RED-C Catholic Radio on Facebook, and follow us on Twitter at @REDCRadio. And remember, when choosing between the values of heaven and the values of earth, always round up!