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Heather and Josh Legler from the First 40 Miles Podcast are my guests in this episode. They released their first episode back on December 16th, 2014. Their latest episode 139, features me!

Heather, and her sidekick Josh, explain the history of their podcast and hiking experience. The First 40 Miles is geared toward new hikers and the intro on every show says-

"If you’re new to hiking and backpacking then this podcast is for you.  We’ll talk about the essentials, how to lighten your load and how to make the most of your time on the trail. Welcome to The First 40 Miles!"

We talk about clothing they create through Zazzle.

Also their three published books- 

Trail Fuel: 40 Quick and Easy Recipes for Wilderness Backpacking

40 Backpacking Hacks Volume 1

40 Backpacking Hacks Volume 2