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Ben and Gene discussed their preferences and experiences with online multiplayer games, issues with the Windows operating system, and their views on large corporations, free speech, and government involvement in protests. They also engaged in a wide-ranging conversation about the historical context of anti-Semitism, the complexities of reproduction, family life, and new technologies, as well as individual freedoms, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the effectiveness of Russia's unconventional tactics in modern warfare. Lastly, they reviewed the current VP list, discussed the challenges of designing a new antenna for Ben's ham radio, and explored the potential of fully automatic machine guns entering the market.

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