Wendy Johnson joins us at the kitchen table to talk about her farm (Joia Food Farm) her farm journey and her joy of growing local food.   We explore Kernza, the new, perennial grain that Wendy is trialing on her farm and helping to introduce to the market.    Donna gives a history of perennial grain breeding at the Land Institute by Wes Jackson and her experience in baking with Kernza.   Wendy  talks about her sheep flock, how sheep are integrated into the crop and grazing rotation at Joia Farm and her marketing of the wool through her company Counting Sheep Sleep Company.