In this episode, I sit down with Ben Rutledge, co-founder of Sidemark, a marketing and lead-generation platform created specifically for interior designers. Alongside co-founders Michelle Lynn, Nicole Ogden, and his brother, Ben shares how Sidemark evolved from a simple marketing tool into a full-service growth engine for creative entrepreneurs.

We unpack Sidemark’s journey from MVP to a hybrid SaaS and agency model, explore how they address user overwhelm, and dive into the real reasons why many designers struggle to grow beyond referrals.

👉 You’ll learn:

• The power and challenges of building with four co-founders
• Why marketing overwhelm is the real churn factor for designers
• How Sidemark pivoted from “all-in-one software” to “done-for-you leads”
• What designers get wrong about paid ads (and how to fix it)
• Why aesthetics, onboarding, and support matter as much as features

Plus, we talk about the importance of narrowing your focus, hiring out what doesn’t light you up, and what it really takes to scale a niche platform in a space with little competition.

If you're a design entrepreneur looking to grow smarter—not just bigger—this episode is a must-listen.

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