Y'all, this was a tough one. We tried to stay focused on how creativity can help us navigate social tension while leaving our own opinions and biases out of the conversation. In this episode, you'll hear us stumble to find the right words, struggle to speak through tears, and wrestle with our own inflammatory instincts. We forgot to say things we wanted to mention. We'll probably step on some toes. Still, I hope you find some comfort in our imperfect conversation. We are grateful for you!

Thank you to Craig Hutson for our createfull theme music! Listen to more of Craig's music on Spotify.

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